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public:nnels:etext:images:alt-text_q_a [2024/09/06 17:22] (current)
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| | Q: In Six-Foot Tiger, Three-Foot Cage, some images have citations in them. Is it best to just transcribe this as “text reads:…” or should I use a long description with quote and citation styles? Maybe it will depend on the image? (If that's the case, it's still helpful to know I have options!) Here are two examples. |
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| | A: In these cases, follow the guidelines for transcribing text from images. |
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| | Q: I have a few questions about an infographic from "Values: Building a Better World for All" (Chapter 12). |
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| | First, I just want to check whether or not the graphics need to be described. The graphics in the footer banner especially seem decorative, but there's not a ton of examples of infographics on the Wiki so I'm not too sure if I can just skip describing them entirely like I would do for individual decorative images. (I've been mostly trying to follow the DAISY webinar on graphs so far since that includes an example of an infographic but that infographic is still pretty different from this one). |
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| | Second, the arrows on the timeline thing on the right seem to be shaded in gradients with the darkest regions reflecting when each technology would be most applicable/available? I decided to translate the entire thing into tables separated by headers, like the screenshot shows below, but I want to double-check if I should've done this differently. |
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| | A: You can follow the same main instructions for all Graphs and [[public:nnels:etext:images:complex_images:graphs_charts|Charts on the Graphs and Charts: How to Write a Long Description]] This page covers the basics for ALL graphs and charts. It also states that the two subsections are "the most common chart types we get." The tables you made are a great way to translate that data in those sections. Don't forget to also describe the rest of the infograph as well. It is stated in the wiki not to describe images (arrows, etc) but what they mean, so your instinct was right about that! |
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| | Q: In "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" there is a schedule in which certain events take place over multiple cells (multiple hours). Should I simply copy the same text in each cell or is there a better way to express this? |
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| | A: As per the feedback, you will be making an accessible table that imitates this section of the schedule. Each cell will recreate the cells of the schedule exactly as they appear in the image. This is the most direct way to recreate this part of the image for a screenreader. |
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| | Update: for the information that goes over multiple cells, just enter the full data into each cell. |
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| | Q: In Muddling Through, a portrait with a caption has stumped me! |
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| | {{ :public:nnels:etext:images:holtby_portrait.jpg?400 |}} |
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| | Caption reads: "A sombre 1894 portrait of the Holtby family seems to presage later problems. Kate, pregnant with Dodie, stands beside Kitty; Bessie sits on Robert’s lap; Oliver (left) and Bob are in front. Author’s Collection" |
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| | The caption mentions Oliver and Bob's locations, but no one else's. If I write the description with their locations, I am repeating the caption. If I write the description without their location, I feel like it sounds like I've left them out. |
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| | Here's my draft for the human narration image description: |
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| | The Holtby family portrait. In the back row are Kate and Kitty, in the front are Oliver and Bob, and to the left are Robert and Bessie. Robert sits in a chair and Bessie holds a doll and leans into Robert's chest. Kate and Robert are young adults in their twenties; Kitty, Oliver, and Bob are young children of early elementary school age; and Bessie appears to be a toddler. |
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| | A: Sometimes it is hard to avoid a bit of repetition, especially for the sake of clarification. Don't forget to describe what they are wearing and what they look like (unless they look the same as a previous image that you already describe these details in). |
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| | Q: Continuation of previous question of "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People". I have managed to find better names for many of the diagrams but there are still a few (including the previous two I shared in the last question) which I am having a difficult time finding anything that seems to fit since they are significantly more abstract. |
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| | A: In these cases, just call them diagrams. Something like: ''Diagram of Restraining and Driving Forces. Etc.'' |
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| | Q: Continuation of previous question of "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People". I didn't use the best examples in the previous question, as those are clearly charts and have particular language associated with them. There are many more abstract diagrams such as these: |
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| | Would "digital diagram" be appropriate for these? Is there better / more visual language that could be used? |
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| | A: You still want to do your best to name the type of diagram. This will require a bit of research on your end. I did find this [[https://venngage.com/blog/types-of-diagrams/|website about 12 types of diagrams]]. Don't forget we also have the wiki page for [[public:nnels:etext:images:complex_images:flowcharts_trees|Flowcharts and Trees]] and [[public:nnels:etext:images:complex_images:venn_diagrams|Venn Diagrams]]. If after you have done your due diligence, and you are still stuck, post it here and I will see if I can track down the diagram/chart/graph type. |
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| | Q: In "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" almost all of the images are diagrams such as these: |
| | {{ :public:nnels:etext:images:7hcircle.jpg?nolink&400 |}}{{ :public:nnels:etext:images:7hhabits.jpg?nolink&400 |}} |
| | I want to make sure I am using appropriate visual language. Would it be appropriate to call them digital diagrams? Also, given they are all a very similar style, could this be something included in the Producer's Note? |
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| | A: For each diagram you need to name the type of diagram at the beginning of the description for each image. For more information please review [[public:nnels:etext:images:complex_images:graphs_charts|Graphs and Charts: How to Write a Long Description]] as well as the examples linked in the documentation. |
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| | Q: "Dana's Bakery" has some chapter heading images. I know that, normally, these sorts of images would be decorative, but the first recipe of the "Cookie Dough" section actually refers to the chapter heading image in the text. (I will include a screenshot of the text but for reference, it is mentioned in the last step of the "OG Chocolate Chip Cookies" recipe). |
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| | I'm wondering if this means that I should just include alt-text for the "Cookie Dough" chapter header image, or if I should include alt-text for the rest of the header images as well, for consistency. |
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| | A: One of the most important thing to do in reformatting, and any type of editing, is to be consistent. You will have to describe all the header images if you are describing one. They only need simple level descriptions. |
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| Q: In "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" there is a promotional image in the back matter. I am not quite sure if I should simply transcribe the titles of the books that are shown? For context, there is a list of many of these books (Also From FranklinCovey Co.) just before this image. I'm struggling with what I should and shouldn't include. | Q: In "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" there is a promotional image in the back matter. I am not quite sure if I should simply transcribe the titles of the books that are shown? For context, there is a list of many of these books (Also From FranklinCovey Co.) just before this image. I'm struggling with what I should and shouldn't include. |
