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====== Poetry ====== | ====== Poetry ====== | ||
- | We mark up poetry differently than normal paragraph text. For Poetry, we apply the following DAISY Styles in Word: | + | For the most part, poetry is marked up the same way as other text. |
- | * Poem (DAISY) | + | Use '' |
- | * Poem - Title (DAISY) | + | |
- | * Poem - Byline (DAISY) | + | |
- | * Author (DAISY) | + | |
- | By poetry, we mean any text where definition of poetic structure is required. The Poem (DAISY) style is an appropriate form of markup for song texts or lyrics. | + | Poetry |
- | =====Styles===== | + | Languages can be applied as needed. See the [[public: |
- | ====Poem (DAISY)==== | + | |
- | The Poem (DAISY) style is used to wrap the entire poem, or fragment of a poem, in the < | + | |
- | The Poem (DAISY) style may also be used to mark up texts displaying elements of versification, metre and rhyme where the use of the Normal paragraph | + | < |
- | **You must always apply the Poem (DAISY) style first, before you apply any of the Title, Author, or Byline styles.** | + | =====Complex Formatting and Producer' |
- | ====Poem - Title (DAISY)==== | + | Sometimes you will come across a poem that has more complex formatting that cannot be translated to EPUB. |
- | The Poem - Title (DAISY) style is used to wrap the title of the poem in the < | + | |
- | < | + | We cannot retain |
+ | < | ||
- | Example: | + | ====Producer' |
- | '' | + | In these cases where we have removed complex formatting include a [[public: |
- | ''Title of Poem [Poem - Title (DAISY)]''</ | + | <WRAP center round box 80%> |
+ | **Producer's Note [Heading Style 1]** | ||
- | ====Poem - Byline (DAISY)==== | + | This book originally appeared with special paragraph and line spaces that added to the meaning |
- | The Poem - Byline (DAISY) styles can be used to wrap information about the creator | + | </ |
- | ====Author (DAISY)==== | + | < |
- | The Author (DAISY) style can be used to wrap the author | + | |
- | < | + | For more info, see the [[public: |
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- | < | + | |
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- | =====Poems in a foreign language====== | + | |
- | If the poem is in a foreign language, we can select the text and go to '' | + | |
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- | If only select individual words are in other languages, do not apply any language formatting. Simply make a note of this and include this note when you are done and transfer the ticket to the Production Coordinator via RT. | + | |
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- | =====Complex Formatting and Producer' | + | |
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- | Sometimes you will come across a poem that has more complex formatting that can not be translated to DAISY. | + | |
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- | We can not retain this formatting for DAISY conversion. | + | |
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- | < | + | |
====Common Types of Complex Formatting===== | ====Common Types of Complex Formatting===== | ||
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* and concrete poetry. | * and concrete poetry. | ||
- | In poetry the use of blank space on a page, between lines, words, or even letters, can be used to convey meaning. We can not retain blank spaces. | + | In poetry the use of blank space on a page, between lines, words, or even letters, can be used to convey meaning. We do not retain blank spaces. |
- | Lines, stanzas, or entire poems can use right justification to convey meaning. We can not retain right justification. | + | Lines, stanzas, or entire poems can use right justification to convey meaning. We do not retain right justification. |
- | A Concrete | + | A concrete |
- | < | + | < |
- | <WRAP center round box 80%> | + | <WRAP center round box 90%> |
**Example** | **Example** | ||
Original Poem: | Original Poem: | ||
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{{: | {{: | ||
- | In-Text Producer' | + | **Example** |
+ | Transcribed Poem: | ||
- | BEGIN PRODUCER' | + | expresses its |
- | In the section titled (5) the words after the first line originally appeared with no spaces and in the shape of a hammer. The poem has been reformatted to have spaces between the words, and without word breaks at the end of lines. | + | regret |
- | END PRODUCER' | + | for the |
- | </ | + | |
- | ====Images in Poems==== | + | ramifications |
- | Sometimes you will come across images | + | |
- | We transcribe all images of text and mark up with the appropriate NNELS styles. If it was a case of complex formatting, then use an In-Text Producer' | + | build on the positive relationships |
- | Sometimes you will find the poet has used an image of a black bar to signify the censorship of a word of phase. In this can you can keep the image and add the Alt-Text "Thick black bar blocking out word/ | + | present |
- | ====Producer' | + | people of this land live reconciled as brothers and |
- | In these cases include a [[public: | + | sisters and harmoniously steward and protect |
- | <WRAP center round box 80%> | + | the |
- | **Producer' | + | |
+ | island together | ||
- | This book originally appeared with special paragraph and line spaces that added to the meaning of the text. Due to the conversion process these design elements have been removed. For poems that originally appeared with more complex formatting there are in-text producer’s notes. | ||
</ | </ | ||
- | < | + | ====Images in Poems==== |
+ | Sometimes you will come across images | ||
- | For more info please go to the [[public: | + | We transcribe all images of text and mark up with the appropriate NNELS styles. |
- | ====In-Text Producers Notes===== | + | Sometimes you will find the poet has used an image of a black bar to signify the censorship of a word of phase. |
- | If there are individual poems within a collection that have complex formatting you may have to also include | + | ==== Q&A Archive ==== |
+ | Q: I have a follow up question about the poetry book, How to Dress a Fish. In your answer below regarding | ||
- | Always us the '' | + | I expected that the black boxes would be images of black boxes since you said to add alt-text for them. I've actually found that all the black boxes I've encountered so far (I'm about 30% through) are regular text in the docx file - so, I can see the word that was originally blacked out in the text and there are no images of black boxes to add alt-text to. |
- | <note important> | + | So, to format it to be like the original, I was deleting |
- | < | + | A: Sorry for the confusion. |
- | See [[public: | + | ---- |
- | Below is an example from the book // | + | Q: I am currently working on the poetry |
- | For more information on what elements can go within a poem's DAISY XML Structure please check out the [[http://www.daisy.org/ | + | A: Recreate it with the same numbers as it is in the original. The poet meant for the lines to break up like that, as this is a common technique in poetry to convey meaning and emotion. |
- | <WRAP center round box 80%> | + | ---- |
- | **Example of An In-Line Producer' | + | Q: Also in " |
- | **{{: | + | A: This is not a table, it is three columns. Tables are used for tabular data, in this case it was used to create the layout for the columns. This is not accessible, and is also poor publishing practice. To create columns see [[public: |
- | **Original Poem Sections** | + | ---- |
- | **{{: | ||
- | **{{:public: | + | Q: I'm wondering about alignment and spacing. The poet in the book I'm editing (Silvija) makes use of left and right justification at some points in the book. Should I align the text as the poet did or stick to right justification only? Also, the book contains a lot of white space (poems are on separate pages). Should I add page breaks in this case? Finally, I just want to verify that the slash ('/' |
- | **{{:public:nnels: | + | A: Poetry is a controversial area of ebook production |
- | </ | + | |
- | =====Example Word and XML markup===== | + | You can delete all empty pages as we don't have to worry about retaining the original page numbers in this work. |
- | ====Example 1==== | + | And yes, do use all the original punctuation. TTS is good at reading punctuation. If you're curious how TTS can read text, you can enable the built-in dictation software on your iOS (VoiceOver) or Windows. Keep in mind that TTS software tend to differ [[http:// |
- | **In Word, if we tag the text below with the Poem (DAISY) style...** | + | Q: Currently working on Pendent que Perceval Tombait (poem). I saw a previous Q&A mentioned that all blank pages should be removed (we do not need to keep same page numbering), but we can keep the text on separate pages for the poetry book. I know that we also have to remove page breaks. Is this the exception for page breaks? The answer in that Q&A was not clear to me. Otherwise, how would you keep the text on separate pages? There are often no headings, so I can't even use headings as a divider instead. Each page has 4-5 lines, and then skips to the next page. |
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- | le temps a métallisé la neige | + | |
- | et le silence s’est réjoui | + | |
- | pour mieux se confondre | + | |
- | des traits blancs se précipitent au sol | + | |
- | des montagnes s’accrochent | + | |
- | sur les écorces des arbres et sur | + | |
- | des bras épineux | + | |
- | les verts disparaissent | + | |
- | les bleus deviennent opalescents | + | |
- | les contours des bruns et des roux | + | |
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- | par moments | + | |
- | un oiseau tire un trait noir | + | |
- | dans cet espace accéléré | + | |
- | **... then this is the output we will get in XML: | + | A: That was back from when we did DAISY. I removed that line from the wiki. Just format it with headings |
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- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | </ | + | |
- | </ | + | |
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- | ====Example 2==== | + | |
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- | **In Word, if we tag the text below with the Poem (DAISY), the Poem - Title (DAISY), and the Author (DAISY) styles...** | + | |
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- | XXIX | + | |
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- | When in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes | + | |
- | I all alone beweep my outcast state,</line> | + | |
- | And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries, | + | |
- | And look upon myself, and curse my fate | + | |
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- | **...then this is the output we will get in XML:** | + | |
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- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | </ | + | |
- | < | + | |
- | </ | + | |
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- | =====Q& | + | |
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- | Q: Another poetry question: In the book Treaty #, on page 1, 33, and 63, there are a bunch of backwards words. They're English but they' | + | |
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- | A: In this case, leave it as is since it is the intent of the author to have it difficult or impossible to read. Insert a inline producer' | + | |
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+ | Q: Another question about My Art is Killing Me (poetry). There are parts of the poems that use a different color for the words to convey the author speaking to the reader. | ||
+ | I know that we do not do this. Is this something that also goes into the production note? Or is there a way to emphasize this? | ||
+ | {{: | ||
- | Q: In the book of poetry I'm working on (St. Boniface Elegies), there are quite a few words marked with italics. On the page on poetry | + | A: Put a not in a Producer's Note stating |
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- | A: You can retain the italics in the lines of poetry, but remove the italics from the titles, blockquotes, | + | |
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+ | Q: Working on My Art is Killing Me (poetry) and there is this formatting in one of the poems: | ||
+ | {{: | ||
- | Q: Also relating to the book of poems (St. Boniface Elegies), | + | Do I keep it? I' |
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- | A: Keep them as Poem (DAISY), but retain the italics. You can also put an inline producers note to explain what you have done. The wiki has some examples of this in the poetry section. | + | |
- | ---- | + | |
+ | A: Replace the lines with commas. | ||
- | **Q: I am editing a poetry book that uses Italian, French, and Latin. | ||
- | A: Unfortunately, | + | [[public:nnels: |