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public:ms365:sharepoint_and_team_sites_and_collaboration [2023/02/07 22:37]
scott.leslie [Importing these files to MS365 Groups and Team Channels]
public:ms365:sharepoint_and_team_sites_and_collaboration [2024/05/09 05:04] (current)
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 Every workroup at the Co-op (think Support, Systems, Sitka, LibPress, NNELS, Admin  etc) will have a related Sharepoint Group site. They will also have a Team. The group site contain the main document library. Think of these as files and folders that are not specific to a single project but instead are relevant acrss the entire group.  Every workroup at the Co-op (think Support, Systems, Sitka, LibPress, NNELS, Admin  etc) will have a related Sharepoint Group site. They will also have a Team. The group site contain the main document library. Think of these as files and folders that are not specific to a single project but instead are relevant acrss the entire group. 
  
-Within the related Teams, there is the concept of Channels. By default every Team has a "General" channel created, and it has a filestore assocuated with it. **//This "General" file area is IDENTICAL to the main Sharepoint document library for the Group as a whole//**. Then think of any other Channels as being useful for subprojects for the Team - they can have their own associated document libraries and chats, and are a way to focus in on one specific project instead of more general group/team-wide discussions or docs. +Within the related Teams, there is the concept of Channels. By default every Team has a "General" channel created, and it has a filestore assocuated with it.  Then think of any other Channels as being useful for subprojects for the Team - they can have their own associated document libraries and chats, and are a way to focus in on one specific project instead of more general group/team-wide discussions or docs. 
  
 You can always access Groups and Teams through the web. You can also access elements of Groups (calendar, group email, files) through associated thick desktop clients like Outlook and OneDrive. And with Teams, there is also always a web view but also the thick Teams desktop application. Ultimately the choice of which to use is yours, however we are often experiencing that the web interfaces have more options, and though they have not said it, it seems clear to us that long-term Microsoft will try to deprecate the thick desktop clients in favour of web-only views (simply due to reducing the number of codebases they need to support.) But for now - if there is something you are finding you can't do in the desktop, you usually can find it in the web interace. You can always access Groups and Teams through the web. You can also access elements of Groups (calendar, group email, files) through associated thick desktop clients like Outlook and OneDrive. And with Teams, there is also always a web view but also the thick Teams desktop application. Ultimately the choice of which to use is yours, however we are often experiencing that the web interfaces have more options, and though they have not said it, it seems clear to us that long-term Microsoft will try to deprecate the thick desktop clients in favour of web-only views (simply due to reducing the number of codebases they need to support.) But for now - if there is something you are finding you can't do in the desktop, you usually can find it in the web interace.
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 1st off it can be helpful to have the thick OneDrive client installed. You can do everything through the web but somethings are easier by dragging and dropping on the desktop. 1st off it can be helpful to have the thick OneDrive client installed. You can do everything through the web but somethings are easier by dragging and dropping on the desktop.
  
-By default Onedrive creates a PERSONAL Onedrive folder on your desktop and on the server. By default these files are NOT shared and are exclusively owned by you. Ideally ANY Co-op file work you are working on will be on files in this folder. Files in this folder can then either be shared by sharing the individual file, or moving the individual file to one of the Sharepoint Group SHAREDd folders.+By default Onedrive creates a PERSONAL OneDrive folder on your desktop and on the server. By default these files are NOT shared and are exclusively owned by you. Ideally ANY Co-op file work you are working on will be on files in this folder. Files in this folder can then either be shared by sharing the individual file, or moving the individual file to one of the Sharepoint Group SHAREDd folders.
  
 To begin, go to your main Group site. In the case of the Systems and Web team this is at https://librariescoop.sharepoint.com/sites/SysWeb (the URL for all the Group sites are below).  To begin, go to your main Group site. In the case of the Systems and Web team this is at https://librariescoop.sharepoint.com/sites/SysWeb (the URL for all the Group sites are below). 
  
-On the right hand menu is a link to "Documents." Clicking on it takes you to a view of this Groups documents, which are split into two sections - "In Channels" and "In Site Library." As an experiment, feel free to open the "In site Library" section and then hit "Uploadand upload a file. You should see it in the site library list of filesAnd if you click up to the "In Channel" section and open the "General" channelyou should see the same file there.+On the right hand menu is a link to "Documents." Clicking on it takes you to a view of this Groups documents, which are split into two sections - "In Channels" and "In Site Library." The "Site Library" can contain files related to the Group that are "Above" the level of the Teams/Channels foldersThis can be helpful to load documents that are related to the overall workgroup but that are not specific to any of the "channels (i.e. projects.) But note - these will only be accessible in Sharepointnot in Teams.
  
- <WRAP center round important 60%> +As an experiment, feel free to open the "In site Library" section and upload a file. Then go into the "General" folder and upload a file.  and then hit "Upload" and upload a file. The first file wil lbe visible in this sharepoint site. The second file will also, but if you navigate to Teams, you will only see the second file in the General channel. 
-===== Important Note about using the Thick Desktop Client ===== + 
-If you want the files either here, or in Teams, to show up in your desktop client, then while you are viewing the documents section on the  web group, you need to click "Sync"  or "Add Shortcut to OneDrive" so that OneDrive knows to copy this folder and its contents down to your desktop (and vice versa, sync anything in those desktop folders back up with the server.)+ 
 +<WRAP center round important 60%>**Important Note about using the Thick Desktop Client** \\ 
 +If you want the files either here, or in Teams, to show up in your desktop client, then while you are viewing the documents section on the web group, you need to click "Sync"  or "Add Shortcut to OneDrive" so that OneDrive knows to copy this folder and its contents down to your desktop (and vice versa, sync anything in those desktop folders back up with the server.)
 </WRAP> </WRAP>
  
 ===== Exporting Files from Google Drive ===== ===== Exporting Files from Google Drive =====
  
-If you have files in Google drive that you want to migrate over to MS365, you need to get them out first. The easiest way is to log into Google drive with your web browser, navigate in your drive so that you can see the folder you want to export, and then right click and select "Export." This will download a zip archive of all the files in this folder, with the native Google docs formats converted into Word formats. +If you have files in Google drive that you want to migrate over to MS365, you need to get them out first. The easiest way is to log into Google drive with your web browser, navigate in your drive so that you can see the folder you want to export, and then right click and select "Download." This will download a zip archive of all the files in this folder, with the native Google docs formats converted into Word formats. 
  
 ===== Exporting Files From Sync ===== ===== Exporting Files From Sync =====
  
-This is even more straighforward as no "export" from Sync is required - if you are the folder owner, you should have the master copy on your desktop.+This is even more straighforward as no "export" from Sync is required - if you are the **//folder owner//**, you should have the master copy on your desktop.
  
 ===== Importing these files to MS365 Groups and Team Channels ===== ===== Importing these files to MS365 Groups and Team Channels =====
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 Once the files are in their Group documents libraries and Teams Channel documents areas, by default they will be shared with members of that group. Please refer to the [[Files]] page for more information on how to share files outside of the default group. Once the files are in their Group documents libraries and Teams Channel documents areas, by default they will be shared with members of that group. Please refer to the [[Files]] page for more information on how to share files outside of the default group.
  
 +===== Some Notes on What May Not Migrate From Google or Sync =====
 +
 +Google doesn't allow the export of Drawings, Forms, Sites, and Maps from Drive. If you have any of these that you need to move over you may need to go into the individual documents and export the data in a neutral format (think PDF, CSV, PNG, JPG) and then manually move into OneDrive/Sharepoint.
 +
 +Shortcut files aren't supported for migration and therefore not migrated. As well as the following: 
 +
 +  * Files larger than 15 GB are not migrated. 
 +  * Files with a size of 0 bytes (zero-byte files) are not migrated. 
 +  * The following characters in file or folder names are removed: " * : < > ? / \ | 
 +  * Leading tildes (~) are removed. 
 +  * Leading or trailing whitespace is removed. 
 +  * Leading or trailing periods (.) are removed. 
 +  * See Invalid file names and file types for all other limitations. 
 +  * Filenames can have up to 256 characters. 
 +  * Folder names may have up to 250 characters. 
 +  * Total path length for folder and filename combinations can have up to 400 characters. For more info, see below. 
 +
 + After you upload folders that have been exported from either GDrive or Sync, be sure to pay attention to the OneDrive/Shaarepoint messages that popup, as these can indicate where a file or file name has been problematic and you can then remedy this.
 +
 +===== Remediation of Links to Files After Moving them over to MS365 =====
 +We are aware that there are some files in both sync and possibly Google docs that have been linked to from other public and non-public places. The primary places we have determined are
 +  * Co-op web, both public and extranet site
 +  * Wiki
 +  * email
 +
 +We will NOT be remediating links to docs that have been emailed, it is simply not possible.
 +
 +**For links in the wiki** - if you are the folder owner, once you have migrated docs into MS365, go to the wiki and use the search function and simply search for sync.com or google.com. Follow the links and if you recognize any of the documents, locate in MS 365, get a shareable link and replace the existing one. A quick search of the wiki has revelaed only a few such links
 +
 +**For public links on Co-op web** - same as with wiki, the search function on thes tie wil reveal these and then they can be replaced. 
  
 +**For extranet sites** - Sam ran a search on Co-op web and found the following links that will need to be edited to reflect the docs new locations (primarily Admin/ED's office) https://librariescoop.sharepoint.com/:x:/r/sites/SysWeb/Shared%20Documents/Coop%20Web%20and%20Other%20Web%20Projects/External%20Filesharing%20on%20bc.libraries.coop.xlsx?d=w1ed62e8520424597b09aea918bf24f50&csf=1&web=1&e=GX1uME
  
 ====== Group Sharepoint Sites ====== ====== Group Sharepoint Sites ======
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 |All Staff | |allstaff@bc.libraries.coop| |All Staff | |allstaff@bc.libraries.coop|
 |Support |https://librariescoop.sharepoint.com/sites/support-team |support-team@bc.libraries.coop | |Support |https://librariescoop.sharepoint.com/sites/support-team |support-team@bc.libraries.coop |
-|Systems |https://librariescoop.sharepoint.com/sites/SysWeb |sysweb@bc.libraries.coop |+|Systems |https://librariescoop.sharepoint.com/sites/SysWeb |sysweb-team@bc.libraries.coop |
 |Sitka |https://librariescoop.sharepoint.com/sites/sitka-team |sitka-team@bc.libraries.coop | |Sitka |https://librariescoop.sharepoint.com/sites/sitka-team |sitka-team@bc.libraries.coop |
 |Management | https://librariescoop.sharepoint.com/sites/mgmt-team|mgmt-team@bc.libraries.coop | |Management | https://librariescoop.sharepoint.com/sites/mgmt-team|mgmt-team@bc.libraries.coop |
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